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Interview with José Argüelles/Valum Votan - Italian New Age Magazine (2008)

Q. Could you introduce New Age readers to the fundamental steps of your famous theory?

J.A. I presume you are referring to the Law of Time. The first step was to study the Tzolkin or sacred 260-day count. In 1974 I had a large Tzolkin matrix with the original Mayan notational symbols. After many years of meditating on this 13 x 20 calendar matrix, I concluded that the Tzolkin was a cosmic code that held the keys, among other things, to the timing of the evolutionary cycles on our planet as well as to the DNA code. The results of these findings were published in Earth Ascending (1984, 1988, 1996) and the Mayan Factor (1987, 1996).

The next step was living according to the cycles of the Mayan calendar code. This I began to do in the mid 1980s. Simultaneously, I continued with my investigation of the mathematical codes underlying the Mayan calendar. Then came the third step, the discovery of the timing frequencies. This occurred in Geneva, Switzerland, at the Museum of Time, when I realized that time is a frequency and what the Maya understood was that time is the universal frequency of synchronization which governs all of nature. this is universally true with the exception of modern human civilization. By contrast, modern civilization operates by an artificial, irregular mechanistic timing frequency. The natural frequency is 13:20, the artificial, 12:60. The corollary to this discovery is the formulation of the Law of Time: T(E) = Art, energy factored by time equals art, that is to say, the harmony of nature is a function of its being synchronized by the universal timing frequency, 13:20.

The fourth step was drawn from the conclusion of the third step, that unless modern humanity changed its timing frequency it would end in total disaster, and that the corrective was to first change calendar - replacing the irregular artificial Gregorian with the natural and totally harmonic Thirteen Moon/28-day calendar.

Q. Why Maya were/are so important in your studies and theories?

J.A: They were the only people who developed an elaborate system of mathematics, calendrics and astronomy based on the number 20 (rather than 10, or 12). In fact no other people or culture comes close to the Maya in their perception of time and the nature of a calendar as an instrument of synchronization - as opposed to the Western concept which focuses on time as duration.

Q. Any other ancient civilization inspired you? Why?

J.A. Actually there are aspects to all of the ancient civilizations that are of common value, and that is the perception of the human as an integral link in a cosmic cycle. It is the sense of the cosmic that is so inspiring and so prevalent say, in the early Chinese, Indian, Mesopotamian  or Egyptian civilizations. But if there was any other civilization besides that of the ancient Maya (and Mexico in general) that has fascinated me it is the Andean civilization of ancient South America in Peru  and Bolivia. The Inca and pre-Inca peoples possessed a very high culture not dependent  on advanced technology, but which developed, nonetheless a sophisticated calendrical system, mathematics, cosmology and visionary social order. Maybe it is because both the Andean and Mayan civilizations are in the New World that they could develop such unique cosmovisions and perspectives that set them apart from the civilizations of the old world. You can see this if you go to Macchu Picchu and the sacred valley of the Inca, or visit Tiwanako in Bolivia near lake Titicaca.

Q. Why a new calendar, a new way to measure time?

J.A. As  I stated previously in discussing the fundamental steps of discovery of the Law of Time, the calendar in which modern civilization is rooted is artificial irregular and based on no natural cycles;  hence, it is anti-nature. A calendar is a programing device. If the society bases its program on a device that artificial, irregular and anti-natural, what kind of society will you create? Such is the nature of our civilization today. We call it global, but it is really Gregorian. It is anti-nature and that is why we are destroying ourselves and our environment -  we are programmed for never attaining harmony and consequently we will bring on our own self-destruction by the calendar we use. A new calendar will wipe the slate clean and give everybody a chance to start over. Besides, the new 13 Moon/28-day programming instrument is a perfection of harmony. Ultimately the effects of this calendar will be to produce just that - absolute harmony, reintegration with ourselves and the natural order. Isn’t this what we need today?

Q. How could the 13 moon calendar be accepted as a new language of time? I mean for all the public masses.

J.A. Already hundreds of thousands of people are following this calendar. And this is without any official promotion or government sponsorship. The masses will accept this calendar in time as the Gregorian world becomes more unbearable. Even now more and more people come to this calendar for precisely his reason: because it is such a logical solution.

Q Where have your theories been accepted first? In which country?

J.A. The countries in which the Law of Time and its practical application, the Thirteen Moon calendar, have been most accepted are Brazil, Russia, Argentina, Japan. In Brazil this year one million pocket calendars were given away, and more than 80 cities officially recognize the Day Out of Time, the 365th day of the Thirteen Moon Calendar Year, including the world’s largest city, Sao Paulo.

Q. Where haven't your theories been accepted? And why according to you?

J.A. Even in the United States , the calendar and Law of Time are spreading, although mostly in the underground culture. But the major exceptions right now are China, Tropical Africa and the Islamic Middle East. We now have some beginnings in tropical Africa, Kenya, and that will spread from there. The tropical Africans are beset by so many problems that the calendar at first seemed too remote. China is still relatively  impenetrable to new ideas such as the calendar, but even here we are making inroads,  as is the traditional Islamic Middle East, though numerous individual Muslims are coming to understand the Law of Time. By 2012, however, the entire world will accept the 13 moons as the natural planetary standard for peace and unification.

Q. Why do you define time as the fourth dimension?

J.A. Space is the third dimension, time is the fourth dimension. This has been recognized by physicists like Minkowski and Einstein as well as the Russian astrophysicist, Nikolai Kozyrev. But the Law of Time greatly expands the meaning of time as the fourth dimension to define and encompass a whole new order of reality, the synchronic order. The synchronic  order is to time what gravity is to space. The synchronic order is the realm where synchronicity is the norm. that is what awaits us as a reward for changing the calendar.

Q. Talking about the 13 Moon calendar, how does it work?

J.A. The 13 Moon calendar is perpetual. Every moon (month) is exactly the same as every other moon, Each has four equal weeks of seven days, so the week day and the day of the moon are always the same. The first days of every week are always days 1, 8, 15, and 22 .  … The day out of time the 365th day, is no day of the month or week at all and so allows the 52 weeks and 13 months to be impeccably perpetual, harmonic, and regular. The impact of such a program on the mind is incalculable.

Q. After 15 years from the birth of the new Law of Time, what is changed?

J.A. In the 15 years since the discovery of the Law of Time the world has changed dramatically. The world government in the form of the G-7 (Seven most industrialized countries in the world) came to power overtly; money became the most important purpose of civilization; globalization became a dirty word; global warming became irreversible; terrorism became the dominating factor in global politics; the internet came into existence (only ten years ago); the solar activity has continued to intensify in an unprecedented manner; and for the first time in history, the ice had melted from the North pole. Put all that together and you have unprecedented planetary transformation. It is beyond anyone’s control. The cycle is closing, so be ahead of the rush and return to natural time now.

Q. And what else will happen?

J.A. Over the next four years the chaos and self-destruction of the dominant civilization will render it inoperable, chaotic and anarchic. A new world community and a new universal spiritual force will arise. The 13 Moon calendar will become accepted as the basis of a new human covenant, 2013. New psychic and spiritual powers will begin to be evident among humanity auguring the coming evolutionary shift  towards super mental spiritual consciousness -the noosphere. Within the next few years, the solar flares will increasingly  affect the electromagnetic field and our DNA ...

Q. Peace is the true inspiration of the 13 moon world movement. According to your theory how could we explain the bad news in America, Iraq, Afghanistan?

J.A. The bad news in America, Iraq and Afghanistan is due to the karmic closing out of the cycle. Essentially the closer we get to 2012-2013, the more intense will be the historic karmic cleansings. It is far from over and we will see a lot more in the next four years. After that things will begin to even out.

Q. Why did you identify 2012 as the end of the cycle? What is the Mayan prophecy of 2013?

J.A. The Mayan long count of 1,872, 000 days (13 baktuns of 144,000 days each) began on August 13, 3113 BC and ends December 21, 2012 AD. That is the definitive end of the entire cycle of history. Then a new cycle begins after seven moons. On July 26, 2013 there will be a major galactic synchronization which will be the moment of the quantum evolutionary shift. this will commence the New Solar Age of Mayan prophecy.

Q. Has Italy ever known your theories?

J.A. Yes, of course. I first came to Italy early in 1998, to let the Vatican know about my intentions. The Vatican is well informed, though whether any one ever passed the information on to John Paul II is open to question. I have been back several times since then. The Movement to change the calendar  is now flourishing in the Pope’s front yard.

Q. What about your last time in Italy?

J.A. I spent five days here timed to the Pope’s 25 the anniversary of being the Pope - which was also the 421st anniversary of the Gregorian calendar reform. I presented a three day seminar on the calendar change and the Law of Time. Over 200 people attended. They actually were from many other European countries as well. It was a very successful event. the Calendar Change Movement is now emerging as a new trans-political global force.

Q. In your THE  DYNAMICS OF TIME, The evolution of time as consciousness - you wrote: 'All is number. God is number. God is in every thing'. What is the relationship among numbers, God and time?

J.A. mathematics is the language of God and creation. Everything that comes into existence, i.e., descends from higher dimensions into physical plane, is first a mathematical or geometrical formulation. Everything that is created is created in precise measure, that is it conforms to some mathematical ratio or another - and is in relation to all else that exists which also conforms to different ratios and mathematical orders. Number is almost like its own dimension somewhere between the third (physical) dimension of space and the fourth (mental) dimension of time. Verbal discourse and language are primitive and confusing compared to the elegance of pure whole number mathematics.

Q. What do you mean by the holonomics nature of the galactic brain?

J.A. Holonomic means according to the law governing whole systems. The universe itself is a whole system and every subset of that system is a holographic reflection of the whole order. The galaxy is the immediate subset of the universal. Intelligence is assumed to pervade the evolution of all the different orders of galaxies, hence “galactic brain.” Being holonomic in nature, the galactic brain is the model of solar and planetary intelligence as well. At the planetary level the holographic  order of the galactic brain is known as the noosphere - earth’s mental envelope.

Q.  What is the vision about telepathy in your theory?

J.A. When everything is synchronically organized and harmonized in natural 13:20 time, then telepathy is a natural given of our mental existence. We do not experience it now because our time is literally chaotic and blocks the normal activation of telepathy. Time is instantaneous and so is telepathy. So when the human mental field has shifted to 13;20 time through the natural 13 Moon calendar, telepathy will eventually be restored to the human species, and because of the nature of our nervous systems and experience, our species wide telepathy will result in the activation of the noosphere, constituting the final evolutionary transformation of the biosphere - the unity of life on Earth and its support system.

Q. What about sensorial teleportation?

J.A. The mastering of telepathy, which is already dormant and innate, will give rise to a totally new perception of who we are and what our capabilities are. We will realize that transfer of consciousness, dream or astral travel and sensory teleportation or time travel are actually the new domains of human exploration. We will find such explorations far less costly, much more deeply satisfying and mentally so exciting we will gladly adopt a lifestyle to accommodate these kinds of experiences. This is how we shall become a race of Earth Wizards.

Q. What is the Psi Bank?

J. A. the psi bank is the auto-regulatory system of the noosphere. As a virtual reality matrix coded by the 13:20 timing frequency, it is the mechanism that governs all of evolution on Earth. Through the Law of Time, the psi bank is now accessible, like a fourth dimensional telepathic switchboard. The Law of Time makes conscious what was unconscious.

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